After reading WPL, chapter 7, please write 2 paragraphs about the similarities and differences between the kind of analysis you did in 107/101 and the rhetorical analysis for 108/102.
I took the 107 class one and a half years ago, so I cannot remember many details about what analysis I did. We analyzed fairy tales in 107. The most important skill I learnt is to write PIE structure, which is Point, Illustration and Evaluation. Similary, in 108 we also learnt the evaluation of text, which is part of Rhetorical analysis. Besides, the introduction part of both analysis in 107 and 108 are important. Nevertheless, in English 107, we need to make our own points that we learnt from the story and give the evaluation to support our points. This semester, we are using rhetorical analysis to evaluate the purpose of the autor and whether the text is persuasive or not.
In 107, I learned about contextual analysis which refers to what the author is arguing. It is more about analyzing the information itself. The rhetorical analysis refers to how the author is arguing, how the author persuade us in a certain way, and the method. The main idea of the rhetorical analysis will address the effective degree of the author's argument. We are supposed to analyze and evaluate the persuasiveness of the author's argument. We should support our argument with examples and paraphrases from the text for the different kinds of analysis we did in 107 and 108.
In 107, I studied textual and contextual analysis, which is simply analyzing the text. the analysis includes not only analyzing the text, but also language, style and rhetoric. PIE format was followed. Rhetorical analysis to some extent is the same thing, but involves analysis of how author is arguing. It explains how the text is, it is persuasive or not, effective or not.
Taking English 107 last semester was very interesting. We learnt how to analyze things, which is similar to what we are doing in this course, however in this course we will focus more on it and how to analyze things in a different way. English 108 is basically teaching us how to look at things in a different angle as we have to analyze things like who are the audience and what is the exact massage and purpose of the author.
However, in English 107 we focused on a lot of basics things like how to write a thesis, how to write paragraphs using the PIE structure and how to cite things in order to provide evidence for our points, which I believe was teaching us how to write proper essays.
I can't remember any details about what we learned during the 107 class, because i took the 107 about one years ago. But i remember i learned about contextual analysis. As same as Rhetorical analysis, they have the similar structure, like Introduction, Thesis, Paragraph Organization and the conclusion. Also, we need to write the evaluation of the essays. The main purpose of the rhetorical analysis is used to descover how a test attract its readers. However, the main purpose of the contextual analysis is used to help us set the essay's historical and curtural . This is the mainly difference between rhetorical analysis and contextual analysis.
In ENGL107, we mainly learned textual and contextual analysis, which is like focus on the text itself, it told me how to understand the text and author's point. But for rhetorical analysis, it's like some kind of deeper analysis than the analysis method we learned last semester, I think it will let us develop our own understanding and thinking toward a text, whether the text is persuasive or not.
In 107 we have learned the rhetorical situation which based on author, audience, purpose and context. we also learned rhetorical strategies ethos, pathos and logo. Just like last semester we analysed film The Day After Tomorrow. The author is 20th Century Fox. The audience are young people. The purpose of the film is to make money.
The rhetorical analysis we learned in this semester are also based on rhetorical situation. However, it is to figure out the deeper meaning of the text. Just like the toilet paper commercial. The author looks like the family, but it actually is the toilet paper company. The purpose looks like to tell people electronic product can not replace every thing, but the company actually want people to buy their toilet paper.
In 107 class, the analysis was more focused on the thesis, the main points of the articles. While the rhetorical analysis is more focused on the details.It will analyse the word choose, the artistry, the structures, and so on.
Both the two kinds of analysis are trying to find the role the words play in the article. They will find the effects of the words of the author and try to find a connection between the words and what the author tries to express to us. They are both works that try to find the relationship between what we see and what the author wants us to see.
In 107, we learnt the textual analysis, this a kind of facial analysis, we can only figure out the facial things we found. In 108, we are going to learn the rhetorical analysis, this analysis is to find the deeper meaning hiding behind the character which the author gives us. The real thing which the author is talking about may not the real thing which the author show to us.
In ENGL 107, we learnt to analyze a textual such as a poem, a song or an small article. In 108, we are now focuses on rhetorical analysis. The similarities of these two analysis are that they are both analysis, so we need to separate the text and deeply understand it. Also, by writing an article to analysis the text, we need to write main statement, find textual evidence to support our statement, organize our paragraph and so on. However, there are lots of differences between these two kinds of analysis. For the analysis in 107, we are more focus on the text itself. We may try to find the thesis of it, analyze the purpose of the article. But in 108, the most important part for rhetorical analysis is to find the way how the author get to his point, which needs to understand deeper of the article.
In the previous semester, I took 107 and I was thought about how to use the PIE structure in the contextual analysis and also how to convince the reader about the main idea of the text I wrote. While in this class, I am learning about the rhetorical analysis, which helps us to evaluate, and analyze the text weather if it is effective or not. In addition to that, in the textual analysis the writer writes about himself and about his or her main idea from the story. However, rhetorical and textual analysis depends on the emotions to deliver the goal to the audience by using some special elements that makes it easier for him of her.
We learned the rhetorical situation which include author, audience, purpose and context in both 107 and 108 classes. Also we have learned rhetorical strategies ethos, pathos and logo in these two classes. The different between these two classes are 107 just analyze what the author said, but in 108 more prefer to analyze what the author want to express.
In 107, I learnt how to write PIE paragraphs to argue the main point of someone's story, play or movie. we write about the main message of a story or play. We tried to prove it by our way with not a lot of control from the instructor. The most important part was adding more analysis. it was easy class and fun. In 108, it is the same but with more linguistic abilities. I guess we need to review the essay more. Also, In 108 it is really important to know what made an essay effective instead of the main message of the essay.
During last semester, while i was studying english 107, i came across a new category of writing, which is Textual analysis, Through textual analysis, we analyzed how the writer uses text to attract readers and how the writer present his point. we analyzed diction and how the writer uses certain strategy to invoke the readers about his point. however, this semester, its more or less, different. In English 108 we will be using rhetorical analysis, which is similar to textual analysis but different. In rhetorical analysis, we will analyse how the meaning of the text affect the readers. we will be analyzing how the writer uses emotions and logical fallacies to present his point. I am optimistic about this semester english class as i believe that rhetorical analysis and other types of writing will be more deep and interesting .
During 107 class, I learned textual analysis for a paragraph in basic way, such as analysis the topic, main purpose of the author, and how the author express his point by different ways, we not only analysis the paragraph, we also try to analysis a movie, to find how the movie express the reality. However, in 108 class, I need to learn rhetorical analysis, not only to find out the author's point, I also need to find and explain how the author use their different technique to attract audiences and influence them.
Texture analysis and rhetorical analysis have many similarities as well as differences. There are similar outlines to follow while writing these two types of analysis such as they consists of introduction, body paragraph and conclusion. Moreover, developing an analytical claim in a rhetorical analysis essay is pretty much the same idea as creating a thesis statement in a texture analysis essay. The body paragraphs require arguments supported by some examples from the object that we study. The main difference between the two kinds of analysis is the goal. The goal of rhetorical analysis is to examine how the text persuades its readers whereas the goal of texture analysis is to simply look into the text itself and analyze it. Rhetorical analysis is more subjective than texture analysis because an interpretation of an object can differ greatly based on how people look at it.
In English 107, analysis was basically textual. The analysis included what exactly the author wants to say and significance of certain things. The essays we wrote also brought out our opinion on some topic. The rhetorical analysis is also similar in certain ways. Its an analysis which is mostly concerned with bringing out the purpose of the text. For this analysis we have to remember the ethos, pathos and logos. Through them we can bring out the purpose of the text and rhetorically analyze it.
Similarities: We know that whatever the literary analysis or the rhetorical analysis, they are both belong to the writing genres. They are just the different form of the writing genres. And we also make a discussion about the argument from the context. From the structure of the paper, these two kind of analysis have the same one. Difference: Rhetorical analysis has the goal to analyze and evaluate the persuasiveness of a text's argument which means we need to stay focused on the analysis and evaluation of the text. This is different from the literary analysis which we sometimes could spread further. We write the rhetorical analysis to persuade our audience which is also different from the literary analysis that just need to write down our reasonable explanation about the context.
I took the 107 class one and a half years ago, so I cannot remember many details about what analysis I did. We analyzed fairy tales in 107. The most important skill I learnt is to write PIE structure, which is Point, Illustration and Evaluation. Similary, in 108 we also learnt the evaluation of text, which is part of Rhetorical analysis. Besides, the introduction part of both analysis in 107 and 108 are important.
ReplyDeleteNevertheless, in English 107, we need to make our own points that we learnt from the story and give the evaluation to support our points. This semester, we are using rhetorical analysis to evaluate the purpose of the autor and whether the text is persuasive or not.
Xinye Wu ( Cornelia)
In 107, I learned about contextual analysis which refers to what the author is arguing. It is more about analyzing the information itself. The rhetorical analysis refers to how the author is arguing, how the author persuade us in a certain way, and the method. The main idea of the rhetorical analysis will address the effective degree of the author's argument. We are supposed to analyze and evaluate the persuasiveness of the author's argument.
ReplyDeleteWe should support our argument with examples and paraphrases from the text for the different kinds of analysis we did in 107 and 108.
In 107, I studied textual and contextual analysis, which is simply analyzing the text. the analysis includes not only analyzing the text, but also language, style and rhetoric. PIE format was followed.
ReplyDeleteRhetorical analysis to some extent is the same thing, but involves analysis of how author is arguing. It explains how the text is, it is persuasive or not, effective or not.
Taking English 107 last semester was very interesting. We learnt how to analyze things, which is similar to what we are doing in this course, however in this course we will focus more on it and how to analyze things in a different way. English 108 is basically teaching us how to look at things in a different angle as we have to analyze things like who are the audience and what is the exact massage and purpose of the author.
ReplyDeleteHowever, in English 107 we focused on a lot of basics things like how to write a thesis, how to write paragraphs using the PIE structure and how to cite things in order to provide evidence for our points, which I believe was teaching us how to write proper essays.
I can't remember any details about what we learned during the 107 class, because i took the 107 about one years ago. But i remember i learned about contextual analysis. As same as Rhetorical analysis, they have the similar structure, like Introduction, Thesis, Paragraph Organization and the conclusion. Also, we need to write the evaluation of the essays.
ReplyDeleteThe main purpose of the rhetorical analysis is used to descover how a test attract its readers. However, the main purpose of the contextual analysis is used to help us set the essay's historical and curtural . This is the mainly difference between rhetorical analysis and contextual analysis.
In ENGL107, we mainly learned textual and contextual analysis, which is like focus on the text itself, it told me how to understand the text and author's point.
ReplyDeleteBut for rhetorical analysis, it's like some kind of deeper analysis than the analysis method we learned last semester, I think it will let us develop our own understanding and thinking toward a text, whether the text is persuasive or not.
Name: Yanqing Li
DeleteIn 107 we have learned the rhetorical situation which based on author, audience, purpose and context. we also learned rhetorical strategies ethos, pathos and logo. Just like last semester we analysed film The Day After Tomorrow. The author is 20th Century Fox. The audience are young people. The purpose of the film is to make money.
ReplyDeleteThe rhetorical analysis we learned in this semester are also based on rhetorical situation. However, it is to figure out the deeper meaning of the text. Just like the toilet paper commercial. The author looks like the family, but it actually is the toilet paper company. The purpose looks like to tell people electronic product can not replace every thing, but the company actually want people to buy their toilet paper.
In 107 class, the analysis was more focused on the thesis, the main points of the articles. While the rhetorical analysis is more focused on the details.It will analyse the word choose, the artistry, the structures, and so on.
ReplyDeleteBoth the two kinds of analysis are trying to find the role the words play in the article. They will find the effects of the words of the author and try to find a connection between the words and what the author tries to express to us. They are both works that try to find the relationship between what we see and what the author wants us to see.
In 107, we learnt the textual analysis, this a kind of facial analysis, we can only figure out the facial things we found. In 108, we are going to learn the rhetorical analysis, this analysis is to find the deeper meaning hiding behind the character which the author gives us. The real thing which the author is talking about may not the real thing which the author show to us.
ReplyDeleteIn ENGL 107, we learnt to analyze a textual such as a poem, a song or an small article. In 108, we are now focuses on rhetorical analysis. The similarities of these two analysis are that they are both analysis, so we need to separate the text and deeply understand it. Also, by writing an article to analysis the text, we need to write main statement, find textual evidence to support our statement, organize our paragraph and so on.
ReplyDeleteHowever, there are lots of differences between these two kinds of analysis. For the analysis in 107, we are more focus on the text itself. We may try to find the thesis of it, analyze the purpose of the article. But in 108, the most important part for rhetorical analysis is to find the way how the author get to his point, which needs to understand deeper of the article.
Huirong Ning
In the previous semester, I took 107 and I was thought about how to use the PIE structure in the contextual analysis and also how to convince the reader about the main idea of the text I wrote. While in this class, I am learning about the rhetorical analysis, which helps us to evaluate, and analyze the text weather if it is effective or not. In addition to that, in the textual analysis the writer writes about himself and about his or her main idea from the story.
ReplyDeleteHowever, rhetorical and textual analysis depends on the emotions to deliver the goal to the audience by using some special elements that makes it easier for him of her.
We learned the rhetorical situation which include author, audience, purpose and context in both 107 and 108 classes. Also we have learned rhetorical strategies ethos, pathos and logo in these two classes.
ReplyDeleteThe different between these two classes are 107 just analyze what the author said, but in 108 more prefer to analyze what the author want to express.
In 107, I learnt how to write PIE paragraphs to argue the main point of someone's story, play or movie. we write about the main message of a story or play. We tried to prove it by our way with not a lot of control from the instructor. The most important part was adding more analysis. it was easy class and fun.
ReplyDeleteIn 108, it is the same but with more linguistic abilities. I guess we need to review the essay more. Also, In 108 it is really important to know what made an essay effective instead of the main message of the essay.
During last semester, while i was studying english 107, i came across a new category of writing, which is Textual analysis, Through textual analysis, we analyzed how the writer uses text to attract readers and how the writer present his point. we analyzed diction and how the writer uses certain strategy to invoke the readers about his point. however, this semester, its more or less, different.
ReplyDeleteIn English 108 we will be using rhetorical analysis, which is similar to textual analysis but different. In rhetorical analysis, we will analyse how the meaning of the text affect the readers. we will be analyzing how the writer uses emotions and logical fallacies to present his point. I am optimistic about this semester english class as i believe that rhetorical analysis and other types of writing will be more deep and interesting .
During 107 class, I learned textual analysis for a paragraph in basic way, such as analysis the topic, main purpose of the author, and how the author express his point by different ways, we not only analysis the paragraph, we also try to analysis a movie, to find how the movie express the reality.
ReplyDeleteHowever, in 108 class, I need to learn rhetorical analysis, not only to find out the author's point, I also need to find and explain how the author use their different technique to attract audiences and influence them.
Texture analysis and rhetorical analysis have many similarities as well as differences. There are similar outlines to follow while writing these two types of analysis such as they consists of introduction, body paragraph and conclusion. Moreover, developing an analytical claim in a rhetorical analysis essay is pretty much the same idea as creating a thesis statement in a texture analysis essay. The body paragraphs require arguments supported by some examples from the object that we study.
ReplyDeleteThe main difference between the two kinds of analysis is the goal. The goal of rhetorical analysis is to examine how the text persuades its readers whereas the goal of texture analysis is to simply look into the text itself and analyze it. Rhetorical analysis is more subjective than texture analysis because an interpretation of an object can differ greatly based on how people look at it.
In English 107, analysis was basically textual. The analysis included what exactly the author wants to say and significance of certain things. The essays we wrote also brought out our opinion on some topic.
ReplyDeleteThe rhetorical analysis is also similar in certain ways. Its an analysis which is mostly concerned with bringing out the purpose of the text. For this analysis we have to remember the ethos, pathos and logos. Through them we can bring out the purpose of the text and rhetorically analyze it.
Similarities: We know that whatever the literary analysis or the rhetorical analysis, they are both belong to the writing genres. They are just the different form of the writing genres. And we also make a discussion about the argument from the context. From the structure of the paper, these two kind of analysis have the same one.
ReplyDeleteDifference: Rhetorical analysis has the goal to analyze and evaluate the persuasiveness of a text's argument which means we need to stay focused on the analysis and evaluation of the text. This is different from the literary analysis which we sometimes could spread further. We write the rhetorical analysis to persuade our audience which is also different from the literary analysis that just need to write down our reasonable explanation about the context.